I am too tired and annoyed to write about this in detail but I wanted to share this: Naomi came home from daycare yesterday and refused to eat her dinner. Then, while sitting in her high chair, she threw up. I took her upstairs and gave her a bath and the next thing I knew she was asking to go to bed. It was 6:00! She has never done that before and I knew she wasn't feeling well so I put her to bed. Around 8 she started whimpering so I went in to check on her and she had thrown up again. Poor thing. I gave her another bath, changed her sheets and put her back down.
This is the thing. I am sure she did it because she overate at the Valentine's Day party. The sign up sheet for parent contributions was ridiculous! They wanted us to bring chips, cheez curlz, fruit cups, cookies, cupcakes and juice! I mean seriously, WHY were they serving them so much food?! I was horrified so I brought in a banana and asked them to serve it to her at the party. She loves bananas and it was my way of reminding them that I don't like her to be given massive amounts of junk food. Just add this to her plate instead of the cupcake or something so she eats less junk, I requested.
Well, not only did they not do that (her banana was still there at pick up) but they also didn't monitor her eating. She obviously ate and ate and ate herself sick. I am so frustrated! They had no business feeding them all that crap to begin with but then to let the kids eat as much as they want?
I realize they may not be mindful of my daughter's eating issues during a party. I mean, they know she can eat a lot but perhaps they were distracted or didn't care since it was a party. And to their defense, most kids will probably stop when full. But the fact of the matter is, sometimes they may not and in this situation they allowed a two year old to eat so much she threw up and that pisses me off.
Naomi's eating is beginning to concern me more and more. I have blogged about this before. Naomi eats a lot and she doesn't seem to know the feeling of being satiated. She will keep eating and eating and eating--more than me if I let her. People keep telling me she is a "growing girl" or not to worry but that she has a "healthy appetite" but my mother's intuition is making me think there is more to it. I haven't done much reading on the subject, but I do know that binge eating isn't uncommon for older children or children going through attachment issues. But does this happen with toddlers?
Maybe I am making too much out of it but I am still concerned. Does anyone have any experience with this? Can anyone suggest where I can go to get more information on this type of behavior? Or maybe there are some toddler experts out there who can explain to me about toddler eating habits and assure me that this is normal.
In the meantime, I will continue to provide her healthy foods that won't upset me as much if she overeats... but come on. Even healthy foods need to be restricted at some point. She could eat an entire jar of applesauce or 4 bananas if I didn't stop her.
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Are you aware of this resource: http://adoptionnutrition.org/
It has lots of good information.
I work with children with feeding issues (although most of the kids I see won't eat) and they are one of the most difficult things for parents to deal with because it hits right at fundamentals of parenting (health, control, providing for your child).
Good luck, Melissa
I understand your concerns about her eating. It is better to get it checked out and addressed while she is little if it is a concern. What about asking the doctor to refer you to someone at the children's hospital near you? Or contact one of the doctors who specializes in children who are internationally adopted. I am sure that they would have some resources or people that you could contact for more information. She may still be just settling in, but if it is a concern for you (and it would be for me), I would find someone in the know to talk to about it.
Hugs to you both, we have not chatted in sooo long! And we LOVED the christmas card! Wow she is getting big!
Big hugs to you both!!
:) Robyn (and twinkle)
YES. We had some similar issues. but each child manifests differently of course. I'll try and give a brief of our sit- but feel free to email me- gon_hikn93 at yahoo
Upon arriving- he was 2.5- he had no 'off switch'. would eat 6 LARGE (huge) pancakes for breakfast every day for .. a long time. WEll after getting all the gutt bugs out. I made a point to NEVER let him go hungry. (Its a trigger and then becomes a sick cycle) I ALWAYS had food & water available to him. It was MONTHS- maybe 4-6 before he finally one day left his plate with a little left in it. (ok- like a spoonful but still!!!) After that- I did a little rearrange in the kitchen. Made a basket of snack he could have full access too. The day he realized it- he ate every thing in it over 3 hours. 14 various granola bars. And promptly learned what 'full' feels like. There is more let me skip to end- If anything else is triggered for him- (Hungry, Angry, Lonely, tired)- and he has food- there's a good chance he'll put too much in his mouth and choke- and then vomit. But other than that--- he's learned. He's been here a year. again email me for more...
Sorry, I don´t have any info you could use, but I really understand you are pissed. Tolally agree with you, daycare should know better!
Did you talk to her pediatricial about it? They should test her for alergies. My cousin had a big apetite too and then they diagonsed her coeliac disease...
or maybe she actually caught a virus and you're overreacting? because honestly, there are so many viruses right now, so many kids miss school these days because they're throwing up!
Another AP I know had this same issue with her child. If you like I can put you in touch. I think it does happen with adopted children who maybe didn't have enough before they were adopted.
I have the opposite problem - can't get my girl to eat... so I'm no help.
Yes - let's reschedule dinner next week - tuesday again?
I am dealing with the exact same thing with both Beau and Amaya. Beau goes to school and I am sick and tired of all the party food crap that they always have and all the candy that he is constantly having. The kids are always bringing in birthday treats and they have parties for every little occasion. He does not have a full button at all. He has never gotten sick at all but he eats WAY too much. When I am around I regulate it but at school they don't. They just say he is a very good eater. It drives me crazy. At dinner they both ALWAYS ask for 2nd's and 3rd's (servings). Their first serving is always plenty. We are starting to say no to 2nd's so they don't get in the bad habit of ALWAYS eating more and more and more. It's turning into a bad bad habit. My brief college education was focused on prenatal and pediatric nutrition but I never studied anything about post-malnutrition issues. It's so frustrating. Other people just don't get it. It's a serious issue.
On another note, good luck on your date tomorrow.
So frustrating about the day care! It doesn't seem like too much to ask that they make sure the kids don't eat until they puke!
I try to keep in mind some advice I've read in a few places, that it's our job to decide what, when, and where our kids eat and it's their job to decide how much to eat, and that food issues develop when we try to do our kids' jobs for them or let them do our jobs for us...but if your intuition is telling you something else is going on, you should definitely trust yourself! If she were your bio kid I might say don't worry about it, but I think this is one of those areas where you really have to consider adoption as a factor, and especially adoption from a place where food is scarce.
Hope someone else can chime in with some resources for you.
I am sooooo with you on the junk at daycare/school. Why? Why? Why? I could understand A cookie for a party, but cookies, cupcakes, candy...Geez, does that not make them crazy for the daycare staff? It sure does for me when they get home. Ugh.
'not sure on the eating issue. I know that in dealing with it in older kids, they must be taught to identify the physical sensation of fullness. I'm not sur ehow it wou dbe handled in a toddler.
I was adopted at 16 months and struggled with food hoarding and binging my first few years home. As an adult I now understand that this behavior was an adaptive response to both food insecurity as well as general lack of control. One recommendation that therapists in this area sometimes suggest is empowering the child by giving her her own "food cabinet" at home, school, etc to store snacks that is only theirs to touch - e.g. no teacher, parents, classmates etc can have it unless the child explicitly makes an offer. You can fill it with "healthy" snacks but the point is the security of knowing its there and she's allowed to access it whenever she wants to.
that is a tough one, especially since they are not being careful or monitoring at preschool...ugh!
B was real bad about eating, eating, and then eating more when we first got home. After a few months I decided to start monitor and even if he was hungry he needed to get use to portion control. I now serve his meal on a smaller plate and RARELY give seconds. IF (rarely) he tells me he is still hungry I wait about an hour and give another snack.
He has gotten really good about it...I have told him what items are good for him and which ones we don't need to eat as often (french fries...he LOVES) now he will ask if it has been long enough for him to order fries if we are eating out.
I think your best bet would be to control as much as you can at home and hopefully she will be LEARNING so that when she is older she can tell them....no thanks :-)
This is a hard one and I an not sure what to say but I will do my normal fence sitting!
IMHO it maybe sweet Naomi caught a bug at nursery that's why she threw up.
On the otherhand she may have food issues ie spent a part of her life eating Ethopian food, now she is exposed to a different variety of foods she loves the taste.
The strange thing I would say is in the pictures you posted on Valentine I immediately thought Naomi has grown she looker taller and slimmer!
My daughter adopted at 13 months similar background to Naomi eats the following but weight 11.3 kilo
Breakfast 2 weetabix or a large bowl if cheerios and 8 oz milk
Lunch adult portion of food at nursery ie 2nds and 3rds
Tea time 2 snacks at nursey and drink ie sandwich
Dinner rice egg cup, broccoli, peas and salmon, over cream or fruit
Bedtime milk and biscuit
This is more than I eat but doctor said let her eat as she is a growing girl. She said do not make a fuss of food because you don't want to give her food issues.
So our ploy has been to give her smaller portions and mealtimes so she is eating less. But on occasion she has not eaten at all so is swings and roundabouts.
Have a word with your doctor, if she is going to have adoption food issues it won't really manifest itself until she is much older.
Maybe this sounds terrible but maybe Naomi and my daughter are just plain gluttons and nothing else.
Don't worry it will sort itself out
D
I to wonder if this eating is related to adoption
Sorry to hear of your struggles with her eating. Just wondering if you have noticed her growing out of her clothes quickly. If her weight gain is steady but not accelerated, she is likely eating to her needs. There have been several good suggestions about keeping food readily available so she does not feel that food is feast or famine.
By the way, I think she has a stomach virus especially since she wanted to reitre early.
Good luck.
I deal with the same eating issues with my girl. She is older than yours but she will still eat uncontrollably when junk food is around -- she is better with healthy food. I sent her to a pool party one day with a friend and got a call from the mom a little while later saying Ladybug had thrown up. I asked what she ate. She rattled off a ridiculous list of things. Why didn't this mom (a nurse) stop her? I mean she was paying attention enough to know exactly what she ate.
thanks for all your comments! she may have caught something at daycare, true, but the massive amounts of wanting food are the real issue.
i don't want to create issues with food (ie. tell her no too much) so i try to provide (mostly) healthy foods so she can have more if she asks for it but i would like her to learn portion control and understand the feeling of being full.
she is growing out of her clothes at an alarming rate. she just got a ton of 3T hand-me-downs and is already growing out of them. i'd say she goes up a size every few months. yes, she is losing her childhood pudge and maybe is growing taller so maybe next time we are at the doctor and i can find out what percentile her weight is in. last time we were there she was in the 90th but she may not be anymore.
she looks (and is) healthy but it's the enormous quantities of food that she consumes that concerns me, not so much that she is going to be overweight .. at least not at this point. i just don't want that to be an issue in the future.
anyways, thanks for all the suggestions. i had read about the snack cabinet. maybe i will try that.
I'm sorry you are having to tackle this by yourself. Have you discussed your concerns with her doctor and then with her teachers? Also, I like the snack cabinet (or drawer)becasue it sounds as if the child is allowed to "control" some of the food issues. Thanks for sharing your day in such an open way---I'm praying for you two!
I don't have any advice or suggestions for you, but just wanted to send a virtual hug to you and Naomi and I hope she's feeling better.
I had a similar issue with my then 2.5 year old when I brought him home. My mother and I were amazed by how much he could pack in. I mean where was he putting it all. What worked for us was when I thought he had enough or looked like he had enough, I would ask him to put the food in a container and put it in the fridge and then when he wanted it I would give it to him to eat. Once he realized he could have it whenever he didn't mind doing it (only takes a couple times for them to realize you are going to do what you said). I also always had cherrios available in his snack cup that he could eat whenever. Eventually (not long after - a couple weeks) he stopped asking for the leftovers in the fridge that he stored and he no longer eats that cherrios throughout the day - this one lasted a couple of months but nothing really unhealthy about cherrios if they are the chocolate ones :-)
But it's funny because even now (months later) when we go out he still asks the waiter for a box for his leftover food and he has to box it himself. People find it quite entertaining. And he rarely eats the leftovers which is more interesting to me.
I hope you find something that works for the 2 of you.
I can totally relate regarding the day care situation. They do the same thing at my daughter's day care, the amount of junk they put on the plate of a 3 year old is astounding!! I brought in carrot sticks once and they never even made it to the kids' plates.
I have no experience regarding toddler eating issues (except the usual not eating vegetables, etc.). I hope you can find some answers.
-Lisa
I meant if they are not the chocolate ones. Ihave never bought the chocolate ones since I think it defeats the purpose of cherios.
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